From owner-ssh@clinet.fi Fri Aug 11 07:11:52 2000 Received: from mail.clinet.fi (mail.clinet.fi [194.100.0.7]) by hutcs.cs.hut.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10351; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 07:11:52 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31418 for ssh-outgoing; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:55:37 +0300 Received: from lop-nor.ihack.net (r94aag002979.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.183.136]) by mail.clinet.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA31410 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:55:33 +0300 Received: (from mycroft@localhost) by lop-nor.ihack.net (8.11.0/8.8.8) id e7B3sjt20545; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200008110354.e7B3sjt20545@lop-nor.ihack.net> X-Authentication-Warning: lop-nor.ihack.net: mycroft set sender to root@ihack.net using -f From: "Charles M. Hannum" To: dreamwvr Cc: Paul Newhouse , drosih@rpi.edu, nathanb@mars.iol.unh.edu, ssh@clinet.fi Subject: Re: hey all Sender: owner-ssh@clinet.fi Precedence: bulk Uh, let's clear up a few misconceptions here... OpenSSH is not `a complete rewrite' by any stretch. It uses a large amount of code directly from old versions of Tatu's SSH. Indeed, many of the positive changes in OpenSSH since then were not even done by the OpenSSH people; they were done by OSSH (which never seems to get credited). It's quite a misnomer, and a severe disservice to the many people who have contributed to SSH, to credit it entirely to the OpenSSH group. Also, let's not forget than OpenSSH brought us the UseLogin hole, and that over time the `group that puts out OpenBSD' has been known to introduce other holes (as documented on bugtraq in the past). Let's not slobber over it too much without understanding the reality.